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PT Future 68

Awful. Decent looking stats, but then a losing pair trade (long AUD short Dow) comes along and he's a deer in the headlights. Several chances to close at a smaller loss, but no, "hold and hope". Whatever the opposite of good trade management is, this is it. Can I give minus stars?

ALGORITHMIC

PISS POOR money management -- let a large loss grow and grow till it was over $250,000! Absurd! Plus -- since it was still on paper we were charged $100/week anyway because closed traders were technically profitable. Crazy. System is expensive -- $400/month and works poorly in scaling for smaller accounts. I tried 50%, 40%, 20% scaling but still received many errors of orders that could not be placed. Lastly, trader likes to trade overnight which IMHO is problematic in most cases due to liquidity/spread issues.

15+ per month

Of all the futures systems with more than 1 year record this one has one of the best stats. The frequency of trading will be improved with more subscribers but for now the system does not trade consistently month-to-month. The subscription fee is competitive especially for professionally managed system.

Sharktrades

I bet this is a manual or semi-automated system, which makes it vulnerable to human mistakes. On the other side, fund manager has awesome intuition.

Sharktrades

The shark trades without any stop. He takes small profits and lets his losses run. I wonder how long this will work.

Swingtrades

Come on, man, you really let me down, kept adding position to losing trading. WHERE IS YOUR RISK MANAGEMENT???

GREEN FOREX

This system was doing well but the author has not made a trade now in over 5 weeks. No response from the author as to whether he is still alive and kicking. Thinking of moving on...

GREEN FOREX

Everyone below me who ratred this system poorly. Obviously is over leveraged. His biggest peak to valley drawdown is 14% which you put in the context of hie 154% a year compounding is excellent. I would put the 2 morons below me in the catagory of the usual forex morons who want to make 100% a month with a 10 pip stoploss. DELUSIONAL

Sharktrades

I am very impress with this system. I understand that the position moves are relatively small, but I love the accuracy of this system. I can only hope that the developer will expand his methods to other markets.

UltraPro (3X) SPX Timer

The system seems very good. I've made money without suffering significant draw-downs. In addition, it is very easy to trade manually with low commissions.

TradingEF ex Nasdaq CIS

Umm...to be fair to the system's programmer - it has had a great 2012, sadly i may have joined after its death. Since December it just seems to either a) not trade b) if it trades it loses money or c) makes $15... Like watching paint dry.

tradeWerkz I

Reported as a fully automated algorithmic signal generator. There has been a 10 fold increase in the average losses figure (other indicators have also worsened). Its highly probable that there is a structural weakness in the algorithm / software 'bug'. The draw downs were concurrent with the system description but their proximity is of great note. The system manager is communicative but responses to technical enquirers are dealt with in a 'light – touch' manner (excl proprietary). The manager has given himself the milestone of recovering the situation around end Jan. My plan is to unsubscribe but review the situation at the start of Feb to see if the milestone was achieved. The previous performance was very good before this algorithmic area of weakness was revealed.

Sine Timore

This system seems to be professionally managed and perhaps after some adjustments it can be profitable. Right not it is not the case. Have to give lower rating because of recent performance.

Index Spreads

The developer is a skillful, experienced, and disciplined trader. He consistently demonstrates patience in waiting for the trade to set up – never chasing after trades. The developer stays calm and collected when the market is going against existing trades – focusing instead on adhering to system rules. The developer communicates well – providing specific and insightful commentary before and after a trade takes place. He is also very accessible and responsive to questions and concerns. Prospective subscribers can derive some comfort from independently tracked record on Collective2 dating back to late 2007 -- before a major bear market. The system’s performance across a wide variety (and extreme!) market conditions (bull/bear and high/low volatilities) is particularly remarkable.

Spy 2x

This is a good system: it doesn't take excessive risk, and the manager pays close attention to his trades and communicates well. The system manager is a real professional, with a good long-term track record (not all of it on C2). He avoids trading during periods of market stress. Trade fills are simple. Very good so far!

ScalpEminis.com

This system is currently reaping its fundamental weakness -- it has an open loss of $31,000 which more than eats up the total of small wins (typically $200-600) over the past weeks. If you look through the trades, the system by and large 'sells' and then grabs a small profit. This works fine when the market is in serpentine mode (up / down / trading range) but is a disaster if there is a decent rally as the current situation shows. There appears to be no money management at work as this massive system loss has been allowed to grow worse and worse. Avoid!

QP Future 15k

The seeming initial smooth equity curve luring prospective subscribers into trading the system, then reality set in with badly managed trades which cause a steep drop down in equity curve(50%). 3 correlated trades all in RED at huge losses. Why 3 trades of the same? No diversification? With diversification, then may be 1 of them can be green and offset the other losses. Also the timing is BAD. Close to Christmas and end of year and with Fiscal Cliff hanging in US, the market is very uncertain. Now almost all subscribers incur this latest losses. What's next for them? Stay? Leave? Exit with losses? or staying waiting for recovery? With 15k account, the current pending loss is 33% and if it balloon into 10k loss, then it represents 66% account loss!

Compounding Income Stream

This system is exceptional. The risk is very well managed both by specific trades taken, as well as the percentage of system capital employed overall. It is easy to follow, and autotrading is not required. Communication is also good. This system will make you money, without keeping you up at night. This is among the best systems on C2.

Eurodollar Once a Day

Wow, How things can turn from a good month to a bad month very quickly! Just a few losses already brought down the equity curve by 2/3 (picture worths a thousand words). This is a high risk system and the recent loosing streak keep hitting the stop loss very quickly and turn all its trades into high risk catagory. Unfortunately the wins are smaller than the loss and it seem we have not been able to hit a big win and therefore most wins are small. Hopefully next year will be better. Only time can tell