I spend over $7,000.00 a year with C2 for system subscriptions and for Collective2 Software Licenses. This developer has abandoned his systems and subscribers; leaving them in a devastating draw-down; even though he has worked his way out of similar draw downs in pre-subscriber simulations. Look at this system as the type of system you don't want to subscribe to. Multiple day trades that make it look like the developer knows what he's doing but subscribers never receive the same. These systems don't trade the same way after they have subscribers. The results in reality are different from the results in simulation.
I have reviewed C2 stock programs and found Emerging S is the best because:
1. High winning % - 86%.
2. Low draw down - 4.2%.
3. It has back tests upon request, with the max down around 13% during the Bear Markets.
4. Low cost.
I have asked the back test numbers for the last 2-Bear Market and last 5 pull backs. I know in Jan this year, the market was down more than 5% but Emerging S was up.
Please tell if I said anything wrong here or you find a better stock trading program.
Yulin
I’ve subscribed to the system for about half year. So far, I’m profitable. The system trades very infrequently. It’s pretty suitable for people who have a regular day time work. I believe the developer has some edge in picking winning stocks, while it is obvious to confirm that will take longer period. If some short-term trading techniques could be incorporated into the system, it will be more attractive. I’m looking forward to a consistent performance.
In a month of virtual autotrading at 10% I "made" $16 and spent (no quotes) $100. I give it a "fair" because other systems lost me a lot more money...
By the way. I've been looking at Collective 2 for 10 years now, lost a few tau. Is anybody making money?
Consistently high number of winning trades results from adding to losing trades and closing winning trades early. If the number of trades, stop loss, or percentage is reduced, the results are dramatically reduced. If traded at full size, a few bad trades may result in large drawdown or loss wiping out a lot of equity.
!00% win months so far. Banking some good coin which is better than most systems I have subscribed to in the past. Exceptional rate of return if it continues .
Hopefully the developer has not lost his touch. The most recent trades losers have been larger than the recent trade winners. With the win% in the 60 percentile this is unacceptable.
I've been using this system for a few weeks and I have nothing but losses at the moment. The two other stock trading systems I subscribe to are up nicely over this period. I didn't like that the trader hedged his long positions with inverse ETFs. At one point the inverse ETFs were nicely profitable but he chose to let them go negative before closing them out. Stop loss/trailing stop anyone? Not impressed.
I like all the Goldmetre systems. This system started off a little flat but has since taken off with great returns. I highly recommend the whole Goldmetre family of gold systems.
Very nice return on this system even though it is young. Developer communicates well. March and April gave exceptional returns and May is already up 2.6%.
It's a young system, and it's had a good run so-far. There were some issues that prior reviewers mentioned, but since then the system has run smoothly. The system developer offers good communication. If it can maintain reasonable and sustainable levels of growth for a longer period of time, I'll happily change my rating of RBgold Supra to five stars.
Using the following criteria, I found that this fund is the best among all Collective 2 programs, so I put my money there.
1. Low draw down.
2. High positive trade %.
3. Max gain trade is higher than max loss trade.
4. More opportunities using different future markets.
5. Using high volume future market such as ES so he can handle more accounts without worrying move the market and slippages.
Please tell If I wrote anything wrong, and any better programs you found in Collective 2.
Yulin
Nice return so far. I replaced WSS with this system. I also trade the Goldmetre B which might actually be a little better but I'll know in a year.
Three stars because it is so new. 4 star performance.
I like this system, return between 15 - 20 % with a moderate risk and at a low price, excellent for a small IRA account.
Lately is doing pretty good, keep it up Paul.
I have only been a subscriber for a short while, but have been watching the system for quite a while. I was always nervous about several relatively large drawdowns in a row in 2012, but really it has been excellent ever since then. This year's performance speaks for itself. Signals often come out either at or just after the close. Not a problem if you are trading futures, but if you are trading ETFs you might have to open or close positions in the after-hours session or at the open the next day. Overall I recommend this system.
This is a young system, but it has navigated a difficult period in the markets very well. Communication from developer is good. There are a lot of positions to manage manually, but trading is relatively infrequent. Overall very satisfied so far.
Ever since I subscribed in December his strategy seemed to have been: Cut the winners short and let the losers run! His prime concern apparently was to maintain a high win ratio. Unfortunately, some developers of the more popular systems, like THE BEATLES seem to follow the same strategy - this can work fine in a seemingly unstoppable bull market, like the one since 2009 but when the market turns it could produce large losses. If you look at The Grid, the best long time performing systems with less than 25% draw down have one thing in common: Low win ratio but high average profit to loss ratio.
A very nice low risk system.** All trades seem to be in the low risk category with a couple normal risk. The return has been excellent the last couple months after some initial choppiness. It works out to an annual return of around 100% if it continues in similar fashion.
The draw downs seem minimal with only a 6% chance of a 10% account loss which is very reassuring.
Will definitely move it to 4 stars after it establishes a 6 month plus track record with similar statistics.<br/><br/>[C2 Administrator Note: Remember, no system is low risk. Trading is risky. Use caution when trading.]
